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Post by Soren on Sept 1, 2004 17:23:34 GMT -5
Political Nihilism as I understand it:
Political Nihilists are similar to anarchists in that they do not believe in the authority of institutions or others over them, however, they also do not believe in the authority of an individual's human nature.
Human nature is just another illusion.
There is no truth in the universe, and therefore no point in trying to change society in the name of anything.
We reject all beliefs which require faith, including science, religion,morality and politics.
Truth is a drug.
Life has no purpose or meaning, and people should simply accept this and live, rejecting all ideological attachments.
The only revolution should be the revolution of thought, and the only war should be the war against the lies humans call truths....
Though destruction plays a natural role in creation.
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Post by Kai on Sept 9, 2004 12:44:29 GMT -5
Hmm...Nihilists...Oh I remember,
Nihilism is the belief that all values are baseless and that nothing can be known or communicated. It is usually put together with extreme pessimism and a extreme skeptical that condemns existence. A real nihilist believes in nothing, have no loyalties, and no purpose other than, perhaps, an impulse to destroy. Nihilistic ideas: epistemological failure, value destruction, and no purpose. Of nihilism in their attempts to blunt its destructive potential. By the end of the century, existential despair as a response to nihilism gave way to an attitude of indifference, often associated with antifoundationalism.
So I only have one thing to say, GO DEMOCRACY AND REPUBLICANS...Sorry, I am a die hard about this.
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Post by Andrew Kasher on Sept 9, 2004 17:17:24 GMT -5
We already know you're a Republican Kai. It has nothing to do with nihilism.
Nihilism is so paradoxical. If there is no truth, then the statement is true. If the statement is true then then the statement is false....etc.
((Sorry))
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Post by Kai on Sept 9, 2004 17:55:12 GMT -5
Hey man, I am not john...
I am KAI...YAY
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Post by Andrew Kasher on Sept 9, 2004 18:41:35 GMT -5
Sorry, I was speed reading and I confused you with John's charcter Oni for some reason. I didn't get much sleep last night... really sorry. Bleh.
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Post by Soren on Sept 9, 2004 20:12:19 GMT -5
I think there is a difference between something being true and then the truths of the universe
There are very few things that people can say are absolutely true with 100% surety in the evidence
Nihilists do believe that somethings are true, like gravity since this is a force that has been proven
Natural Selection and Evolution are true to them.
So they do believe in some things like logic and parts of the sciences.
They also believe that nihilism is a truth
So it is not the absense of beliefs, but a rejection of many of the prevailing notions of what is true or right.
Morality unlike gravity is an invention of humans, rather than a natural force. Heros come from humans...governments, laws, gods, etc, were all invented by humans for one reason or another.
I believe it challenges these things on the basis that a truth invented by a human is a lie
((I may be mistaken, my brother was a nihilist...boy did that make him grumpy...but anyway, that is what it seemed to me))
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Post by Valryk on Sept 14, 2004 21:03:23 GMT -5
Quite honestly, I call myself a Nihlist, but I'm not sure what I am. I believe in no god, I believe that governments of all kinds are nuts, and should be destroyed, and I only believe what I can prove. So what would that be classified as?
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Post by Soren on Sept 14, 2004 21:09:00 GMT -5
That sounds nihilistic to me. So I think you are right in saying you are a nihilist.
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Post by Zinn on Sept 14, 2004 21:17:14 GMT -5
How do you know gravity exists?
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Post by Valodya Bassarov on Sept 14, 2004 21:25:41 GMT -5
I think that nihilists feel that gravity exists since although it can not be seen, the force can tested again and again with the same result. What goes up, comes down, unless it goes up with a force that exceeds earth's gravitational pull.
Maybe some nihilists don't believe in gravity, I wouldn't know, but I am under the assumption that they believe in most aspects of science which can be tested with consistant results.
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Post by Valryk on Sept 15, 2004 17:47:25 GMT -5
TEXT Nihlist it is, though I find classifications of any kind, wrong. Its not really personal, I just find it wrong to assume that someone is one thing, maybe they feel they are something entirly different.
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Post by Zinn on Sept 16, 2004 16:52:36 GMT -5
How do you know that we exist, or that the test results exist?
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Post by Ichiro Sazuki on Sept 16, 2004 17:07:47 GMT -5
They don't believe in anything that they cannot see. They believe in no life, and that basically the point of life is to destroy.
They believe in nothing other than to destroy. Well that is a true Nihilistic person. So they aren't too concerned why they are here, and if their very own existence is real.
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Post by Satsujin on Nov 9, 2004 3:43:57 GMT -5
I know this is old, but I just had a thought. Through destruction they prove their existance.
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Post by Valodya Bassarov on Nov 9, 2004 4:50:59 GMT -5
Not all Nihilists are destructive, some destroy ideas or false truths.
Destruction can be the disection of perceptions of reality
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