Fascists

[Akka]

Im scared, Yuber, really. And your right, I am a Star Sun. But like I said, I'm on probation. I am going to have a detailed conversation with Ms. Mary about that whole deal. I wasn't myself that day.

And Yuber, the day you decide my fate is the day your whole world comes crashing down around you. I'd rather be eaten out by an alien than to have you decide anything about my life.

[Yuber]

((Enough with the in character discussion, I don't think that that is what this is for. And even if it was at one time, I think that it should cover the various aspects of facism, and not character conflict.))

[Mary Warren]

((If you outlined the heirarchy of LIF it would be greatly apreciated. I think it would be helpful if I, and other people, knew more about the workings and organization of LIF.))

[Noe "Ghost" Carlson]

Well, there are three Sects to the LIF you know. So far, only the Machinist Sect has shown itself. The Magus Guild, our magical branch, and the Order of Saint Simon, the religious branch, are still waiting in the wings. Well, that is they haven't taken a more active role in our mission. They are less active by far than the Machinists like myself and always have been. However, they do help us out when we need it. Their branches are much smaller because their more selective with their members. Any child who is not accepted within the Guild or the Order becomes a Machinist.

The LIF: Machinists Sect[/u]

Classes: The following is a list of the classes that make up the Machinists.
Ruling Classes-
al'Lan (All lan)- Political leaders. The top of the heap. The al'Lan are more or less unquestioned because only other al'Lan and the higher ranking Thori stand on level with them. Some are cruel while others are more relaxed but all of them are ruthless. Unlike other classes of the Ruling Classes, al'Lan has no levels. You either are al'Lan, or you are not. al'Lan are judged by their record: projects undertaken vs. projects completed. The al'Lans lead the Machinists and direct all those below them. They all follow the Director's instructions in general but all of them have their own plans and their own loyal followers.

Thori (Thor ee)- Military leaders. Those who think of battle and of the LIF's eternal struggle with the night things and the Outsiders. Those who have proven themselves to be valued leaders in war are found among this class. Thori are generally under the direct command of an al'Lan, usually the one they have served since their carrers began. Thori are charged with the organization of the Hunters and other fighters within the Machinists. Though they are loth to admit it, Thori often find themselves dancing in the strings layed out by their al'Lan leaders.

Mori (More ee)- Elite warriors. Most Hunters are in this class. Fighters who have killed Outsiders are almost always granted the level of Mori for their efforts. Mori report to a Thori and are bound to an al'Lan through this connection. Mori are the tools that al'Lan and Thori generally use to achive their designs. Most Mori are less free thinking and never bother to think that their leaders may not have their bets interests in mind. However, like all who live within the LIF they know when they are being used, even if their not sure who's pulling which string.

Sun (S oo n)- Elite workers. The most skilled, the most inavative, the most inventive. Top scientists and engineers find this class to their liking. Sun know two things: they are the wheels that make the Machinists run, and that they are above the working class. They care only for their work and can be as ruthless as any al'Lan in seeing that their projects are completed. Sun do not report to Mori or Thori, but work directly with the al'Lan. Unlike the military classes, Sun are not bound to one al'Lan. They can, and often do, work several assignments from different al'Lan. Every Sun is one the cutting edge of their field, which range from genetics, to machines, to physics and they know it.

Ruling Class Levels: These are the prefixes that dictate the rank of members within their class, from highest to lowest.
Sigil- Highest rank. Masterful, experienced and proven at what they do.
Crest- Second highest rank. A highly skilled but underexperienced person.
Moon- Third rank. Not only have they shown potential, they have shown that potential. However, they could do better.
Star- Second rank. Those who have shown potential.
"No Prefix"- Entry Rank. Average skill for their class.


Working Classes-
Monith- The rank for proved workers. By the time a Mordith is fully grown, they are expected to have developed their skills to the Machinists' average level. Those who exceed that level become Monith. Monith are almost exactly like Mordith except that they work closer with the Sun and have a little more free time to themselves. Many Monith cultivate hobbies, inpractical skills that give them and their fellows a mesure of enjoyment. Many play musical instraments or craft things in their freetime. Monith have their own subculture, along with the Mordith.

Mordith- The "standard" class of the Machinists.Generally all children are born into this class. Children in the Machinists are raised in groups rather than in family units, though they still know their parents. Those who show earily potential or special gifts are shifted into different groups earily on. Some people spent their own lives in this group. Average people are here. If a person never demonstrates above average skill or ability, they spend their life as a Mordith. Though not a bad life, Mordith spend nearly all their time working for Sun. They get along well with Monith and the two classes have a subculture of their own.

Puar- Those with minor physical or mental problems. Even discounting their problems, the member of the Puar class level are subpar workers, fit for labor. Most Puar are born into the class and a good deal of them manage to work their way up with hard work. They seldom make it past Mordith, but that is an improvement none the less.

Mu- The seriously physically crippled who lack skills. There is nothing to be said. Those born into this class can work their way out of it by either overcoming their problems or by finding other useful skills to employ in the service of the LIF.

Moi- The seriously mentally crippled who lack skills. There is nothing to be said. Those born into this class can work their way out of it by either overcoming their problems or by finding other useful skills to employ in the service of the LIF.

There are no Class Levels for the working classes.

[Cassinda "The Dove"]

That great info for LIF but a detailed outline of facism would help. I keep getting contradicting information for a lotta places. I'm just plain ole confused by it all...

[Noe "Ghost" Carlson]

Forget facism , use this. The LIF doesn't conform to all the ideals of former facist groups.

[Karina Bassarov]

Then what ideals do they conform with?

[Noe "Ghost" Carlson]

The protection and enhancement of the human race.

Honestly, that's day one stuff. You seriously don't know this stuff?

The LIF exists to safeguard human kind from supernatural dangers.

[Karina Bassarov]

Yes, Noe, I knew that much when I made the character for LIF but is there any thing else?

[Noe "Ghost" Carlson]

Yes, but that's the basic stuff.

And I do plan to add more to the description later, detailing more of the LIF's goals and what not but basically everything revolves around protecting the human race.

[Zinn]

From what I can surmise, these are the fascist goals of LIF.

1) Superiority based on some sort of merit. (In this case, how human people are, literally. Also, physical things.)

2) Genocide or enslavement of non-humans.


I would like to ask you to change some of the things in there to conform better with Fascism. Namely, I think LIF would be more likely to support the use of the 'useless' for medical experiments and 'euthenasia'.

It would be more in keeping with Nazi-style fascism.

[Noe "Ghost" Carlson]

We're not Nazis. Human is human. Their low on the social ladder but they are humans.

The LIF is what it is. If we are fascits then so be it but I will not rework the organization to become closer to a traditional fascist government.

[Mary Warren]

I would prefer if you did, since LIF is supposed to represent fascism. Bassarov has asked you try to make your characters a little more political, and this is a good start. LIF is overly complicated, and there aren't even characters representing most of those sections.

The Nazi thing is an analogy.

Jews, homosexuals, everyone who wasn't white, etc are to the Nazis as non-humans are to LIF.

[Noe "Ghost" Carlson]

Oh ya, I know it was an analogy. I'm not offended or anything. I think that's perfectly correct.

What I ment was that unlike the Nazis, all humans are human in the eyes of the LIF. But, people are expected to earn their way. If someone earns help, they are given it.

As to policial matters, I am being political here. I'm creating a new systems, for crying out loud, how much more political could I be?

Just bear with me for now. If we need to, this can all be changed, but for now, this is how the Machinist Sect works.

[Mary Warren]

Your system seems to be more neo-feudal and objectivist than fascist. That's the problem. You should represent the group that you are supposed to represent.

I think that the following things should be changed.

1) More logical and easy to remember ranks.
*unless At'lan means something in a language that I don't know, which is entirely likely.

2) A more fascist mission statement.

3) Isolationism, fascism, objectivism, and religion seem to play large roles. More exploration of that would be good. Also, internal politics could be interesting.