Grahf
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Grahf
Aug 10, 2004 2:59:11 GMT -5
Post by Grahf on Aug 10, 2004 2:59:11 GMT -5
Name: Grahf
Age: Undeterminable
Race: Human
Gender: Male
Alignment: Anarchist
Occupation: Spreader of the Seed of Destruction
Weapon:
OR Weltall: Original Weltall stands at approximately 16 meters. It is a relic, dug from the ground hundreds of years ago and powered by an unknown source. Is of a gear class known only as DIABOLOS.
Stats: divide 1000 into intelligence, strength, charisma, spirit, defense, endurance, speed Intelligence: Strength: 250 Charisma: 50 Spirit: 100 Defense: 200 Endurance: 100 Speed: 200
powers:
Spacial Transferance: This is basically transportation. Grahf can convert his body to pure energy and move nearly instantly across long distances.
Wave Actualization: Grahf has the ability to summon energy from an unknown source and expel it as pure destruction. This is similar to "chi" manipulation.
Wave Corruption: Grahf can bestow small amounts of wave-energy from an "unknown source" to a third party, giving that third-party extra temporary power but driving it towards an excess use of the primal instincts, viewable as rage and madness.
Flight: Self-explainatory. Grahf is able to convert wave-energy into physical force, using this to make himself hover.
Taejutsu: Grahf is well trained in "the way of the fist" and is a deadly martial artist. He able to invoke wave-energy within his strikes, giving it the power to destroy even mechs.
Appearance:
Personality: Grahf is an enigma fueled by a lust for power and destruction.
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Grahf
Aug 10, 2004 3:04:45 GMT -5
Post by Fei Fong Wong on Aug 10, 2004 3:04:45 GMT -5
And the plot thickens...
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Grahf
Aug 10, 2004 3:06:10 GMT -5
Post by Lady Violet on Aug 10, 2004 3:06:10 GMT -5
Approved, but this means you must work with the other anarchists. They are Antero, Sasha, Simona, Zinn, and Wyrm.
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Grahf
Aug 10, 2004 9:38:50 GMT -5
Post by Zinn on Aug 10, 2004 9:38:50 GMT -5
ANARCHISM IS NOT DESTRUCTION, POWER, AND CHAOS DAMMIT!
If you are interested in lust, destruction, rage and the like, go check out Satsujin's group of nihilists. Seriously. I don't want to be mean, but none of the stuff you mentioned has anything to do with anarchism. We have some neat info about anarchism in the Anarchist section of the political forum if you are curious. We do not care about our own power.
I get really annoyed with so called "anarchists" that only care about destruction. Can we make it a rule when admitting people that if someone only cares about chaos and destruction, and states so in their profile, with the exception of currently existing people because it wouldn't be fair to make them change, then they are not an anarchist?
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Grahf
Aug 10, 2004 9:46:00 GMT -5
Post by Valodya Bassarov on Aug 10, 2004 9:46:00 GMT -5
Every movement has people who think differently
I don't agree with Sparticists, Stalinists, and Maoists, but generally they are put into the same general political category as me.
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Grahf
Aug 10, 2004 10:30:42 GMT -5
Post by Zinn on Aug 10, 2004 10:30:42 GMT -5
But those are all have some basis Communism. It isn't a mater of agreeing, it's a matter of chaos not being anarchism at all. If it was destruction in order to acheive an anarchist society, then it would make sense. Antero is a good example of a violent anarchist. However, pure destruction for the sake of destruction or for the sake of creating chaos is not anarchism at all. It's nihilism.
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Grahf
Aug 10, 2004 18:39:56 GMT -5
Post by Fei Fong Wong on Aug 10, 2004 18:39:56 GMT -5
Many anarchists have that particular notion and still call themselves anarchists. Did you happen to see the WTO protests that happened a few years back? Many of those who were causing the destruction called themselves Anarchists. It may not be what you define anarchism as but I hardly thing that constitutes them not being Anarchists themselves. As Bassarov said there are several definitions of each political group.
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Grahf
Aug 10, 2004 19:30:35 GMT -5
Post by Zinn on Aug 10, 2004 19:30:35 GMT -5
I think rioting is a waste of time, but some people could see a riot as a protest. I'm sure there were a lot of people out on the streets smashing things for the hell of it. Just because they identify themselves as anarchists doesn't mean they're anarchists. The Sex Pistols definition of anarchy is total bs.
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Grahf
Aug 10, 2004 19:38:59 GMT -5
Post by Kaitalish on Aug 10, 2004 19:38:59 GMT -5
Anarchy:
Noun Inflected forms: pl.an·ar·chies 1. Absence of any form of political authority. 2. Political disorder and confusion. 3. Absence of any cohesive principle, such as a common standard or purpose. Etymology New Latin anarchia, from Greek anarkhi*, from anarkhos, without a ruler : an-, without ; see a-1 + arkhos, ruler ; see -arch.
The second definition is most pertinent here. Many anarchists embrace this particular idealogy and use violent or destructive means to achieve it. It may offend you, but they have just as much right to call themselves anarchists as you do. I'm a capitalist (In real life) but I disagree with many other capitalists. Does this mean that they aren't truly capitalists? I wouldn't say so.
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Grahf
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Grahf
Aug 10, 2004 20:06:23 GMT -5
Post by Grahf on Aug 10, 2004 20:06:23 GMT -5
Nihilism is a belief set, not a governmental model. In the late 19th century, Nietzsche denounced the rising socialists and stagnant monarchists as nihilists. Nihilism simply denotes the belief in nothing (a frightening concept, but in no way actually related the the creation of nothing/destruction). Similarly, nihilism has nothing to do with chaos, though creating a sociatle structure without a prediding belief can lead to chaos (most recently shown with the fall of the soviet union in which "belief in the party" was not enough to join the masses). Now, Nihilism definatly doesn't apply to a nietzschist such as myself. I don't really believe in chaos so much as the domination of will. However, governmentally, this must lead to chaos should one or many with sufficient will overwhelm the constrains of government. This will constantly happen, not allowing the creation of a government unless one with a strong master morality and a strong will to power herds the sheep. However, a person with a scewed view of master morality would see it as his right, privalege, and calling to dominate with his will to power. My character is a human that, unfortunatly for him, has lived for a long long time and had a bad bad time. This master morality warps into a desire to dominate and destroy all, spreading chaos then quickly whiping it away with destruction. He is a total anarchist in the sense that he wishes for the fall of all organized government (which is, of course, what an anarchist is). Now he's no Ansoc or Ancap, but still an anarchist. Now, of course, all these character traits are heavily based (and the character itself is copied) from a video game, but this is all pretty much a favor and, while some might find the unoriginality insulting, should be acceptible should those character traits be acted out.
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Grahf
Aug 10, 2004 20:11:48 GMT -5
Post by Zinn on Aug 10, 2004 20:11:48 GMT -5
There's violence for a cause, and then there's violence without purpose. The latter does not apply under anarchism. The dictionary definition of anarchy isn't very comprehensive. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism
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Grahf
Aug 10, 2004 20:20:41 GMT -5
Post by Zinn on Aug 10, 2004 20:20:41 GMT -5
Nihilism can be seen as an extreme form of anarchism. However, it is part of nihilism that social change can only be brought about violently.
Wouldn't having one person in charge be a dictatorship? If you're in charge of everyone, even if the rules change with your whims and there aren't any rules, thats still a government, because you're governing.
Anarchism is in itself a system of government. The notion that anarchism deals with the destruction of government is a misconception. It merely deals with the destruction of being governed by others. In a lot of ways, many forms of anarchism are fascist because everyone is in absolute control of themselves. There's also anarcho-syndicalist and anarcho-communist stuff where things are decided by a majority vote when dealing with issues that affect the whole.
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Grahf
Aug 10, 2004 22:37:08 GMT -5
Post by Ashen on Aug 10, 2004 22:37:08 GMT -5
Isn't political anarchy different from the life style? I thought anarchy was the complete absence of a government and that you just did whatever the f'uck you wanted to do. That's how it was projected to me at school from a teacher.
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Grahf
Aug 10, 2004 22:55:33 GMT -5
Post by Zinn on Aug 10, 2004 22:55:33 GMT -5
Well sort of. In anarcho-fascism, you can do whatever you want as long as it does not harm anyone else, because you are in charge of ruling over yourself. It's a government of one person really.
There are a lot of variations of anarchism that don't fit that definition though. Read the link.
Simona's a religious anarchist. It's also a rather interesting view. There is a buch of stuff about religious anarchism in the Anarchist thread of the political parties section.
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Dr. Lenna Simion
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Grahf
Aug 11, 2004 0:14:16 GMT -5
Post by Dr. Lenna Simion on Aug 11, 2004 0:14:16 GMT -5
However you work it, it doesn't work very well and never for very long. The strong take control swiftly almost all the time in an anarchy.
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