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Post by Surma on Jul 17, 2004 19:15:36 GMT -5
Yes I know your is one of the most powerfulest characters in this rpg. And i'm sure everyone knows this. I know about Kuro being brother's with Ukko. But question is, do the other's know. Thank you for making it easier. Lin-Sat can't be defeated or killed by brute strength. So you say your power is virtually unmeasurable, i'm not going to comment on that Lin-Sat. Sure Lin-Sat makes auto hits, powerplays when fighting, but that's how the character Lin-Sat, is soppose to be. Get my drift? I hope so. Even though Lin-sat has a flaw/weakness, Bassarov said he cannot be defeated.
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Post by Kaitalish on Jul 18, 2004 3:06:10 GMT -5
No, Surma, that wasn't directed at you. I haven't fought you so I wouldn't know.
And as far as powerplaying goes, read the thread I made on it earlier in the General Discussion forums. That's a pretty good guide to the basics of powerplaying. Another part of powerplaying that happens very often in this due to the freedom everyone has is people coming up with all sorts of elaborate (and more often than not entirely specious) explanations as to why something works or doesn't work in order to benefit their character.
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Post by Grove on Jul 18, 2004 13:08:21 GMT -5
Riiiight John... Your werewolf character thought he could take on 2 dragons if you recall...
Thank you for the vote of confidence Peter. As Bass said, we already have fight mods and supposedly joining mods, as I am one of the fight mods. There are just a few problems with this idea....
1: It relies completely on the mod being online when the fight is happening. This does not really apply to joining form mods though. They can check on the powers of characters any time.
2: The problem with Joining form mods is that they just DONT DO IT. I havent really seen any post by a joining form mod saying 'you need to change this cause it is too powerful'.
3: When it comes down to it, at least from my experience, some people who powerplay simply dont listen to what the mods say. That is when out of character fights start up. As soon as the powerplayer gets more than the person they are fighting against their actions, they get nasty.
There is also one problem with the joining form mods that i believe I have mentioned in the past. Even if we start enforcing these rules about limiting the power of characters abilities, what about the ones that already exist on the over 400 characters we have? Some people will continue to have crazy abilities, while new people wont get anything near as powerful. It is a problem...
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Post by Kaitalish on Jul 19, 2004 3:01:34 GMT -5
That's really not that big of a problem, Grove. Basically, you get a few Joining Form mods together and have them go to the joining forums. Divide the pages up amongst the mods and tell them to comb through the powers and PM those with powers that are too high and make them change it. They should probably also include the page they found the character's joining thread on, since I note many people lose track.
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Post by John on Jul 19, 2004 5:19:29 GMT -5
actually it was 3 dragons... and i didnt have to go against all of them, all i would have had to do is knock aries out and they wouldnt have been able to get me since he used his shrinking skill so they could get through the molecules of the barrier that was around my castle...
and that wouldnt work, because everyone who made a technique has used it already... and some of the characters, like riku for me, has been here since the beginning, all of his skills where earned. i barely posted out of character when i made him. and i even posted hsi post in my other characters name. he would have over 1000 posts if i didnt.
and if we make a certain post limit for everyone, then whats the point in posting..., the newer members would be able to get new skills to get the edge against the older ones, while the older ones couldnt do anything about it.
this rpg isnt about the techniques or the fights, but they do move them on.
and grove... shut up about my characters.... i have alot of weak characters such as mark who doesnt have alot, all he has is guns and telepathy. Zack... i dont even remember, other then his presense which stops people from attacking him if he doesnt attack them. oni... even tho he has an akujin in him, he is still weak.
unlike your characters who are virtually invincible and when they are attacked, they either dont show anything from getting hurt, or another appears as the last disappears. again showing no result from the attack
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Post by Anutsaka on Jul 19, 2004 10:27:44 GMT -5
I'm going to say this. Despite all the suggestions made, we are avoiding the one main reason that is stopping us from making this work. All the suggestions made are diverting from plain old WORK. There are at least a couple people willing to go through all of the joining forms and then we notify all the people by private message. 1) Anyone willing to actually go through all the joining forms should meet in a certain thread to talk about what is fair and not. 2) After that, we can go through them all and get the work done. 3) Some will go through all the old ones and some will go through the new ones. These are my suggestions. Hope they will be accepted!  |
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Post by Kaitalish on Jul 19, 2004 13:16:30 GMT -5
I like Anutsaka's idea since I just posted it myself right before he posted it. He probably didn't see it, but great minds do think alike no? ;D
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Post by Anutsaka on Jul 19, 2004 13:57:27 GMT -5
Sorry about that Zinn  You've posted a bunch in my thread that I created that I as'sumed I already read your post. I will volunteer myself for this committe.. Is it safe to volunteer you Oni? |
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Post by Kaitalish on Jul 19, 2004 14:03:43 GMT -5
Of course, I'd be happy to do it. Note you can either volunteer this character, Void, Iltanesh, or Vaeris, whichever one suits your fancy.
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Post by Rodthingy Maestro-Reborn on Jul 19, 2004 16:32:36 GMT -5
I also put up my services
but, myself and bassarov were also talking about this. Once Bass gets back, i think you should listen to what he has to say
right, keep talking, dont stop now
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Post by Grove on Jul 19, 2004 19:57:19 GMT -5
I like the idea of going back through old posts and sifting out the overpowerful abilities, but that takes a lot of time and work, like you said. If it was not such a huge task i would want to help, but i simply dont have the time to devote to that kind of endevor.
lol And yes, Satsujin is just like you say John. He gets hit, and he doesnt express pain or whatnot. And when his body is destroyed, another manephests. But he is one of the origonal gods. He is supposed to be extremely powerful, even though he is not at his peak yet. Grove however is not overly powerful. He is very strong yes, but he is not unbeatable. He had his butt handed to when Autumn and Damien teamed up on him this last time, even though no side really won. Damien is pretty weak, and he can only win when he is teamed up. Tensuo has NEVER been in a fight on the main thread, so you cant even say anything about him. lol
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Post by Kaitalish on Jul 20, 2004 0:55:55 GMT -5
It won't take as long as you might think to sift through the posts. I think we have what? 20 pages of joining threads? So let's say we have 5 mods, thats 4 pages each. Give them about 3 days to discuss what is/is not power play, then give them a day for each page, that's a week. Not so long really, and allows for much flexibility. I'm being quite generous with my time allowances here, I could probably do at least two pages a night, depending on how fast my internet connection is going at the time. Also, it probably wouldn't even take 3 days for them to decide all they need, especially if they all just meet online at a time and open a big chat or something.
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Post by Zinn on Jul 20, 2004 1:23:44 GMT -5
Anutsaka, I am not Kaonashi.
I would volunteer, but I am going to be unavailable for the work involved when this will presumably be going on.
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Post by Anutsaka on Jul 20, 2004 10:22:52 GMT -5
Well, it is good to see people volunteering for this! The idea here is that even though it will take a long time, let it take whatever time is needed. This is not about getting it done quickly, because I know people have certain obligations along with my own work to worry about.
We will definately take our time with this endeavor.
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Post by Kaitalish on Jul 20, 2004 20:27:39 GMT -5
Another thing we might wish to do is have other mods look at their fellow mod's joining threads so there is no bias. For example, I might review Anutsaka and he review my own, or whatever.
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